Differences remain on Lokpal Bill; no consensus on creation of Lokayuktas

In All party meeting on March 23 the difference on the Lokayukta matter remained stagnant. Opposition is saying that a forced Lokayukta on sates would destroy federal structure and right of state governments.Parties like  BJP,  CPM  and Trinamool  are saying that Lokayukta bill prepared by states will go in vein if  center's  Lokayukta bill is imposed on them. .{ Lokayukta in simple words is state-level Lokpal/corruption watchdog}

So Lokpal Bill is likely to be amended to remove the portion on creation of Lokayuktas in states. All-party meeting saw the entire Opposition and a section of UPA - Trinamool Congress, DMK, NCP and the National Conference - opposing the Lokayukta provision in the bill.  The meeting was attended by leaders of 20 parties, all of whom are members of the Rajya Sabha, besides the prime minister and finance minister Pranab Mukherjee

With the first half of the budget session of Parliament drawing to a close on March 30, there will be very little time to take up a discussion on the bill in the Upper House, especially as there are still major differences on contentious clauses. It is expected that a resumption of the debate will, therefore, be taken up only during the post-recess period. 
Editor's View: All the parties are now showing their true colors, weather BJP or congress. Both opposition and majority are putting hurdles on the implementation of the bill. Opposition like bjp demanded and supported a center Lokpal but when it came to sate level lokpal(i.e lokayukta) then they are showing bad faces, bjp is doing this because is more prominent in states and hence its corrupt deeds may come before people after passage of a state level lokpal.
All the politician class is same, when they have to pass a increase in their salary then there is a consensus but when they have to pass an anti-corruption bill then there is two sided and foggy attitude.SHAME ON US that we elected such non-sense 

Source:http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/politics/nation/differences-remain-on-lokpal-bill-no-consensus-on-creation-of-lokayuktas/articleshow/12387697.cms

Team Anna to protest killing of IPS officer Narendra Kumar

 Team Anna will launch a three-day fast in Bhopal from Tuesday to protest against the death of IPS officer Narendra Kumarand demanding a strong law to protect whistleblowers(police.etc.) 
The activists also asked Madhya Pradesh CM Shivraj Singh Chouhan to immediately pass the Lokayukta bill in the state (see more about Powerless condition of lokpal made by states)  on the lines of the one enacted in Uttarakhand.
In a tweet,  targeting lawmakers MPs Kejriwal said, "When Sharad Pawar was slapped, Parliament mourned for two hours. Let's see for how many hours does it discuss Narendra Kumar's death."

"Team Anna believes that the political parties are deliberately raking up the war of words for two reasons -- to scuttle justice to the family of the braveheart who single-handedly took on the mafia patronized by politicians and keep the much needed stringent whistleblowers protection law as propounded in the Jan Lokpal bill in cold storage," the statement said.

Editor's View: IPS officer Narendra Kumar, nicknamed as DABANG for his brave fight with mining mafia was surely shot by politicized bullet, and hence  Narendra Kumar is one for whom we must raise our voice, because he raised his voice bravely and honestly against corrupt mining.We all must demand justice for his soul, because Police offices like Narandra kumar are rarely found in our county 

Source:http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Team-Anna-to-protest-killing-of-IPS-officer-Narendra-Kumar/articleshow/12239642.cms

Team Anna begins campaign in UP

Team Anna begin its campaign in poll bound Uttar Pradesh. awaring voters of their rights and power and contribution of vote in bringing strong lokpal.

Team Anna's campaign in the state began on February 5 in Ghazipur and Balia districts. They are demanding voters not to vote politicians that don't support a strong lokpal.

Team had already campaigned in Uttrakhand (bjp ruled) and Punjab (bjp ruled).

"Members of Team Anna have been asking people to take a vow that they will not back candidates making false promises but support those who are answerable to them in future," said the statement.
Manish Sisodia, Kiran Bedi, Kumar Vishwas and other members of India Against Corruption will campaign in the state. 

SCHEDULE

• According to Team Anna's campaign schedule shared with reporters, volunteers of India Against Corruption have so far addressed five big public meetings in areas including former prime minister Chandrashekhar's Balia constituency. They have also covered constituencies of Basti, Gonda, Faizabad and Barabanki in the first phase.
• While a public rally is scheduled be held in Azamgarh on February 8, Team Anna will campaign in Chanduali and Varansi on February 9.
• Team Anna will address a rally on February 10 in Allahabad where as it will reach Rai Bareli on February 13.
• The team will visit Kanauj on February 14 and proceed to Farrukhabad on the same day to address people.
• The team will also visit Mainpuri and Etwah on February 15 and Jhnasi on February 16.
  

Source:http://ibnlive.in.com/news/team-anna-begins-antigraft-campaign-in-up/228144-3.html

Supreme Court justified Lokpal's concept during 2G case

In its verdict 2G case Supreme Court has set a limit of three months for deciding on sanction for prosecution of corrupt public servants. Court said  there should be a set time frame, and added that all matters of sanction should be decided within three months. 
The SC also slammed the Prime Minister’s Office but gave Manmohan Singh a clean chit for the delay in deciding on the prosecution of then telecom minister A Raja in the 2G spectrum case. 

Commenting on verdict Kiran Bedi (member of Team Anna) said that this verdict justifies one of the concept of their Janlokpal regarding time limit.
“Supreme Court has exactly said what we have asking and fighting for, what people have been asking, everything to be time bound.  (1.)But in Jan Lokpal Bill, there was supposed to be no sanction for prosecution.
(2.)If there is evidence, the CBI starts its investigation and nobody interferes in its investigation. This is what the Jan Lokpal Bill was.
(3.) Secondly in Jan Lokpal Bill, it was time bound trial and through number of special courts as needed, so within the maximum period of less than two years, a case is decided,” Bedi told media in Jaipur.

Prashant Bhushan said the verdict would give a boost to the struggle against corruption.

“They have firstly again highlighted how big a menace corruption is in society and we need to tackle it on a war footage. Secondly, even when a private complainant makes a complaint and seeks sanction of the government against a public servant, the government must read the complaint on the same footing as a chargesheet filed by the CBI seeking sanction and must deal with it within the time frame prescribed in Vineet Narayan’s judgement which is within four months,” he added.

Editor's View: Its true that every case related to corruption should be investigated and then decided within appropriate time limit. And Janlokpal Bill contains strong demands of Time Bound independent investigative measures.

Source:http://truthdive.com/2012/02/01/Supreme-Court-vindicated-one-of-our-key-demands-Kiran-Bedi.html
http://www.morungexpress.com/editorial/76096.html

Anna vs Digvijay :(Nanaji Deshmukh controversy)

Anna with Nanaji Deshmuk

Digvijay sharing dias
with Nanahi Deshmuk

Hindi daily reported that Anna had worked under Deshmukh's leadership in 1983 showing a photo of Anna with Nanaji Deshmukh.Rashid Alvi and Digvijaya Singh wasted no time in terming Anna as an agent of RSS.  
"Anna Hazare worked as Secretary with RSS leader Nanaji Deshmukh and trained in 1983 in Gonda. See Nai Duniya front page today," Singh today wrote on his twitter page.  
However, Team Anna did not hesitate in giving a tit-for tat-response.
 Kiran Bedi also posted a picture of Digvijaya Singh sharing a dais with Nanaji Deshmukh, questioning his RSS links."Does sharing of the dais make one each other's agent. Next time shud one sit alone? When two persons share a dais do they become each others agents,?" Kiran asked. 


Meanwhile, Union Minister Beni Prasad Verma also joined the tirade calling Anna an Army deserter, but his claims seemed to bite dust with the report from Army in which army cleared that Anna's record in army is clear and full of might.
Army records made it clear that  Hazera was honourably discharged in 1975 after completing his 12 years of service.Hazera has also won medals for his service.

Editor's View:  Nanaji Deshmuk was first a social activist (honored with  Padma Vibhushan) then an rss member, the very proof of this statement is his powerful social work regarding anti-poverty and minimum needs programme, agriculture and cottage industry, rural health and rural education etc. Nanaji was an experienced man in terms of rural development.
If we believe the report then we will realize  Anna was with Deshmuk in order to gain experience about rural development from Deshmukh(who had infinite experience in this field )Report says that Anna have participated in  rural development projects started by Deshmukh.So it reveals that Anna contributed to Deshmuk's projects to gain experience from him. It is evident from the report that Anna has worked only and only in Deshmuk's rural projects and not in any other  projects and campaingns by rss.It clearly defines that Anna worked with Deshmuk in his rural developmental projects to learn from Deshmuk about rural development. Deshmuk was one of those politicians with whom any activist can meet for exchange of views and lessons. Even Digvijay who is blaming Anna had shared stage with Deshmuk!

Sources:http://twocircles.net/2011dec25/anna_hazare_was_active_rss_%E2%80%98pracharak%E2%80%99_reveals_media_report.html (REPORT)
http://ibnlive.in.com/news/anna-writes-to-pm-conghazare-war-gets-personal/214991-37-64.html
http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2011-08-21/lucknow/29911705_1_indian-army-anna-hazare-kisan-baburao-hazare
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Cong-attacks-Anna-Hazare-again-Anna-is-Indias-agent-says-Arvind-Kejriwal/articleshow/11244769.cms

Team Anna, Dictator to parliament?

Lalu Ji Today (December 22 meeting) said that eliminate Lokpal bill and asked why A team of activist is dictating parliament? 
Well its surprising that Lalu who made a scam of Rs 950 crore is saying this. 
And after wasting 950 crore of country is still in parliament to present his views.There are many MP's and incidents which erased our faith towards parliment. Cash for vote for exampleAfter all this Image of parliment and government is not made by Team Anna , its a self made image!  
I demand government to perform an election with all new parties and to re-setup parliament with those new parties
then I guarantee that no one will ask question on or 'dictate' parliament's procedure. 

Lokpal in parliament

Lokpal bill with constructional status was introduced  Lok Sabha today.  The Bill will be actually debated on December 27 after which it will be put to a vote. 
Different sides including  BJP, Team, and Lalu Prasad Yadav have all  rejected it for different reasons.

Looking at small time period  to debate in parliament, different MP's have said that the Bill must not be rushed through to satisfy the deadline or demands of Anna.

--THIS VERSION OF LOKPAL FACED FOLLOWING OBJECTIONS IN PARLIMENT TODAY (

Dec 22)--

• Team Anna taunting the government said that government's old Lokpal was better that this new one Or government had worsen the lokpal in the time given to them.
• Hazere objects to the fact that the Lokpal Bill does not hand over administrative control of the CBI to the new ombudsman or Lokpal. Without this, his group says, the CBI will continue to be influenced in its investigations by the government.
• Lalu also opposed for his own regions
   Last night, the government had removed the term 'minorities' where the Bill asks for a 50 per cent quota for the Lokpal. That's because the Constitution does not allow for reservation on the grounds of religion. But after Lalu led a raucous protest over this in the morning, the Lok Sabha was adjourned for a few hours. So Government decided  he minority quota would be reinstated through a correction in the language of the Bill
•  Senior leader Sushma Swaraj said, "The Supreme Court has repeatedly ruled that reservation cannot cross 50 per cent. This Bill sets apart a quota for 'not less than 50 per cent.' There are nine members - so it suggests reservation for five members. So if we go with this Bill, it will be struck down in seconds as patently unconstitutional. This language is not acceptable. Take back the Bill."
  Mr Mukherjee agreed that the quota is likely to be challenged in court, but said the government wants the judiciary to settle the matter. 
• Ms Swaraj also said that the Bill violates the federal principles of the constitution by enforcing states to adopt it and create Lokayuktas or anti-corruption agencies. "This infringes upon the rights and dignity of states," she said.
• Lalu also made a lengthy speech. He said
   "Why are we letting a team of four people who include a retired bureaucrat, two retired lawyers, and a social activist dictate terms to Parliament? The country should be run by authority, not agitation"
•  Lalu objected to the inclusion of the Prime Minister among the offices that the Lokpal can investigate. "Hundreds of people will file politically-motivated cases, he said. What face will we show abroad if our leader travels there and he is being investigated at home?" He urged the government to ignore Anna's fast. "Let him look after his own health," he said. "Take back this Bill, send it to a standing committee, fix it and then convince us to pass it," he said.
• Gurudas Das Gupta of the Left was also unflinching in his criticism of Anna, describing him as "a man who pretends to be another father of the nation." He said, "There is no single crusader against corruption. Please don't be afraid of another hunger strike."
• Though this is the argument that the government has so often made, Mr Mukherjee had to defend the need to handle the Bill with urgency. He stressed that legislation can only be done in the House, not in agitations or on the street. But he also made the point that in August, both Houses of Parliament had appealed to Anna to end a 12-day fast by promising to consider his vision of the Lokpal Bill.

Editor's View: Well bill of  course lacks power, and it is clear from the reports and discussions, but more surprising element is that some MP's are lacking brain and maturity! Lalu Ji made a scam of Rs 950 crore and still is in parliament to present his views.
There are many MP's and incidents which erased our faith towards parliment. Cash for vote for example.After all this Image of parliment and government is not made by Team Anna , its a self made image!
 I demand government to perform an election with all new parties and to re-setup parliament with those new parties
then I guarantee that no one will ask question on or 'dictate' parliament's procedure

Source: (Important points from) http://www.ndtv.com/article/india/lokpal-bill-tabled-in-lok-sabha-160093

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Lokpal-bill-introduced-in-LS-parties-object-Anna-Hazare-fumes/articleshow/11208197.cms  

Team Anna Core Committee meeting

Team Anna's Core Committee  met on Wednesday (December 14)to chalk out future plans, including the proposed Ramlila Maidan agitation, if a strong Lokpal Bill is not passed in the ongoing Winter Session of Parliament.

• Team Anna's core committee on Today's meet(Wednesday) decided that  Anna Hazare may shift his proposed fast later this month on Lokpal Bill from Delhi to Mumbai to avoid harsh winter conditions that could prevail in the capital. 
• The core committee also decided that its members will be in Parliament's Visitors' Gallery on the day when Lokpal bill will be introduced in the House, he told reporters. 

Core committee meeting will continue for two days from Wednesday.

Team Anna sources said the Core Committee will also discuss how to go ahead with their campaign in the five poll-bound state if the situation warrants. "There will be preliminary discussions on all these issues," a Team Anna member said.

Sources said the Core Committee will decide on the mode of Ramlila agitation like whether Hazare should sit on a fast or not and how to mobilise support for the protest, which will be held in chilly winter days.

There are also concerns about Hazare's health and all these factors will be considered while deciding on the protest mode, sources said.

Hazare has stepped up attack on the government on the issue bringing Prime Minister Manmohan Singh and Congress leader Rahul Gandhi in the direct line of fire, saying the former "does not take any decision" and the latter was "watering down" proposals.

Congress has been insisting that Hazare should wait till Parliament passes the bill before going on a protest.

 Sources : http://ibnlive.in.com/news/team-anna-core-committee-meeting-today/211688-37-64.html

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Anna-Hazare-may-shift-fast-venue-from-Delhi-to-Mumbai-to-avoid-harsh-winter/articleshow/11108644.cms

Lokpal Bill likely to be taken up in Lok Sabha on Dec 19: Sources

  The government is prearing to begin a debate in Parliament on the Lokpal Bill on the 19th december. 

Anna , who is 74, has threatened to start  a hunger strike on December 27 if the government does not deliver a potent new law against graft this month.     
A parliamentary standing committee examining the Lokpal Bill has finalized its draft amidst dissent from members, including three Congress MPs. The report, which is not binding on the government, is likely to be tabled in Parliament on Friday. Rejecting the parliamentary panel's draft, Anna said the government is not serious about fighting corruption.( click here to see why team anna is upset by  standing committee's draft)

As per Sources  the government is heading towards accepting some of the key points that Anna has deemed essential for fighting corruption. The Prime Minister may be covered by the Lokpal Bill, though with safeguards; government sources say the Prime Minister may himself offer in Parliament that his office should be included in the Lokpal Bill. The government may also agree that 57 lakh junior bureaucrats will be accountable to the nine-member Lokpal. For now, what remains unresolved is the matter of who the CBI will report to - the government is not keen to change the investigating agency's current reporting structure. If that doesn't happen, Team Anna says, the CBI will remain vulnerable to political pressure. "I think the recommendations of the (Parliamentary) Standing Committee, whatever they are, the Lokpal which is coming, I don't think this will have any impact on corruption. On the contrary, it is likely to dismantle whatever exists in the name of anti-corruption in this country," said Arvind Kejriwal

•  Junior bureaucrats 
  One of Anna's non-negotiable demands is that the Lokpal Bill include junior bureaucrats - a feature the committee has not sanctioned.  Meenakshi Natrajan, Deepa Das Munsi and PT Thomas, all Congress members of the committee - formally registered their protest against Group C central government employees - who add upto 57 lakhs  -  not being brought under the Lokpal's ambit. The standing committee suggests the nine members of the Lokpal cannot manage this huge group. Instead, it recommends Group C employees should be investigated by the other autonomous anti-corruption body, the Central Vigilance Commission (CVC).

• PM inclusion
  On the matter of whether the Lokpal should have the right to investigate the Prime Minister, the committee says it leaves the decision to Parliament because of differing opinions among its members.  

• CBI
  The standing committee recommends that the CBI seek the approval of the Lokpal both for chargesheets and for its closure or final reports on investigations. The CBI has taken strong exception to this on the grounds that it contradicts the objective of making the CBI autonomous. A statement from the agency said, "This provision goes against the stated objectives of making investigation agency autonomous, not answerable or liable to be monitored by either the administrative ministry or the Lokpal and protect the integrity of investigation."

Hosted From: http://www.ndtv.com/article/india/lokpal-bill-likely-to-be-taken-up-in-lok-sabha-on-dec-19-sources-156156

Standing committee's decisions on PM's and CBI inclusion

The standing committee in a meeting on 16 november recommend that the CBI's anti-corruption wing be given more autonomy and be placed under the Lokpal's supervision.(However there is a provision of collective participation of lokpal and CBI instead of complete control by Lokpal)

•  Lokpal will conduct preliminary investigation into a corruption complaint and refer it to CBI for investigation.
• CBI would investigate the same and then forward the case to the directorate of public prosecution to be created under the supervision of Lokpal. 
• Any suggestion by the Lokpal for prosecution should be accepted. A rejection, if any, should come either from the secretary of the department(lokpal) concerned or a higher authority.
• The committee outlined a structure that harmonises or coordinates the roles of the Central Bureau of Investigation, Central Vigilance Commission and Lokpal.

While some members of the Parliamentary Standing Committee on Personnel, Public Grievances and Law and Justice felt that the Prime Minister should be brought under the Lokpal, others were of the view that this should be avoided.The Parliamentary panel on Lokpal bill, is divided on the inclusion of prime minister under the ambit of the anti-corruption watchdog.

The committee got at least four suggestions on the matter of the PM's inclusion.

• There were demands for completely excluding the PM and his office, particularly from Congress members. Team Anna had told the panel it was for complete inclusion of the PM and PMO.
•  Certain members said the PM's post could be brought under the Lokpal's ambit after the completion of his/her tenure.
• Another argument was that since the PM was in charge of departments such as personnel, public grievances & pensions, planning, atomic energy and space, all these will be out of the Lokpal's purview if the PM was excluded. They argued that only the departments that deal with national security can be excluded. Sources said all suggestions would find a place in the report.

Source:http://www.hindustantimes.com/India-news/NewDelhi/Lokpal-to-get-part-control-of-CBI/Article1-769721.aspx

http://articles.economictimes.indiatimes.com/2011-11-16/news/30405853_1_civil-society-activists-lokpal-team-anna

Lokpal Bill by winter session of Parliament: Khurshid

REPORTER pradip kumar maitra(hindustan times)
Union law and judiciary minister Salman Khurshid on Saturday asserted that the Lokpal Bill would be tabled in the ensuing winter session of the Parliament for debate and consideration.When asked about Anna Hazare’s call for renewed agitation and his proposed move to campaign against the Congress in states going to elections, the union minister said he had no idea why Hazare was doing all that. "The government is keeping its word given to Anna when he broke the fast -- that the Lok Pal Bill be re-drafted. The standing committee is holding deliberations to make the Bill a comprehensive piece of legislation. His two other demands of Lokayuktas for each state and Citizen’s charter are also under consideration,” he said.


Commenting on Hazare’s demand for right to recall(ie a right where citizens has right to reject their existing political representative), Khurshid said it was as impractical as holding elections all over the country on one day.  “Conducting free and fair elections takes too much time and effort, the recall facility would only complicate the matters”, he opined. On the Gandhian crusader’s campaign against the Congress in the ensuing state elections, he quipped, “Anna should leave politics to us. He should better concentrate more on social issues.”


According to him, it’s unfair to blame the Congress for the delay of 42 years in enactment of Lok Pal Bill. No other party gave it priority. Even the movement started by socialist icon Jai Prakash Narayan was silent on Lok Pal. “So it was only a matter of fixing priorities and the Congress-led UPA gave more importance to RTI Act, food security bill and now the communal violence Bill," explained Khurshid.
He said by December the government would bring a slew of legislations including Bill on transparency in public procurements, citizens charter, electoral reforms, protection to whistleblowers, strengthening the CVC --all this will change the public perception against the UPA government and make governance more effective.


Answering a question, the union minister said that the right to information (RTI) Act that the government brought in to enhance transparency was now becoming a hurdle in its working. "We have no regrets to have brought in the RTI Act. But then too much of RTI work is hitting the working of government department. It is slowing down the development work. Time has come to have a clean discussion on its pros and cons. There is no question of retreating. We all have to think how we can make it more effective and hassle-free,” he said denying that he or the government has reservations against the RTI provisions.


Source:http://www.hindustantimes.com/Lokpal-Bill-by-winter-session-of-Parliament-Khurshid/Article1-754953.aspx

Some points need to be modified about lokpal

• Section 23(1) proposes a maximum punishment of life imprisonment for corrupt public servants, while according to Chapter VI titled “Accountability of Officers of Lokpal” the punishment for a Lokpal member found guilty of corruption is just “dismissal, removal or reduction in rank.”

• This Bill also contains some provisions that could make the Lokpal a heavy-handed parallel oligarchy. For instance, Sec 7 grants to “investigating officers” and members of Lokpal the combined powers of a police officer, director of enforcement and a civil court.
• Sec 4(4), which lists out persons not eligible to become chairperson or member of the Lokpal, needs to be modified to exclude any person who is, or has been, a member, sympathiser, associate or supporter of any communal organisation or person. 

• The total estimated revenue of India for 2011-12 as projected in the last budget is Rs7,89,892 crore and 0.25 % of this is nearly 2000 crores, which the Lokpal will have access to without “any administrative or financial sanction from any government agency.” The drafters have to explain why such a huge amount of money is required for an institution, which according to Team Anna is not going to be flooded with thousands of complaints.

Team Hazare to hold brainstorming session on Jan Lokpal bill

Anna Hazare and his team will start a two-day brainstorming session here Saturday over the future course of action for the Jan Lokpal bill and other issues, an aide of the social activist said Friday. 
"The core committee meeting will start in two sessions tomorrow (Saturday) morning and there will be a public meeting in the evening. Two more sessions shall be held Sunday and the outcome will be informed to the media,” Suresh  Pathare said.
Around 45 people from India Against Corruption and other groups started arriving in the village Friday for the deliberations.While Arvind Kejriwal, Shanti Bhushan and Prashant Bhushan have already reached the village, Kiran Bedi was expected Friday night.

Anna Hazare is also planning to widen the scope of the anti-corruption movement by demanding electoral reforms, the right to recall elected representatives and related issues.

Earlier Friday, Hazare addressed a group of his followers where he challenged Congress spokesman Manish Tewari to prove his allegations of corruption.

"If he can prove that I have taken even Rs100, I am ready to work in his home, fill water for the rest of my life,” declared Hazare, who slapped a legal defamation notice on Tewari Thursday.

Source: http://www.dnaindia.com/india/report_team-hazare-to-hold-brainstorming-session-on-jan-lokpal-bill_1585418

Lokpal bill may have new face: Pranab (INTERVIEWS)

Mukherjee in an interview to NDTV said that the Bill may be a substantially amended
Government Bill or a brand new bill based on all bills. He said the content of the bill is important. He said: "We have accepted the will of a powerful movement, headed by a powerful leader (Anna). Now the Bill which will come as recommended by the standing committee, that will be the bill that we have to consider.” 

Talking about Team Anna’s demand that the panel of the Standing Committee should be reconstructed, he said “every year the panel is reconstructed..this year (too), the panel will be re constructed.”  But who will come from which party depends on party’s concern, he said

When asked why there was no vote regarding the resolution, Mukherjee explained that “there are ways of conveying Parliamentary approval”. He said: “Most of the time, the sense of the House has never been voted (upon). The sense of the house is when we express our happiness..we thump the table...when we express our solidarity with the people of the nation that has had a natural disaster..the Speaker mentions it,…we do not put it to motion..we thump the desk and approve."

Interview Source: NDTV news  

Net Source: http://www.indiablooms.com/NewsDetailsPage/newsDetails010911j.php

Is lokpal against procedure? (Light Showing facts)

During Anna's Anshan MPs blamed that Anna is blackmailing parliament. Now after Anshan Media is debating on it. So of course citizens are confuse that weather they gave wrong support to Anna or were they right to support a bill which is intended to be Constitution changer ?
Now lets clarify some facts and make situation a little bit clear.

• ANSHAN CONTROVERSY- The Lokpal bill was first introduced by Shanti Bhushan in 1968 and passed the 4th Lok Sabha in 1969. But before it could be passed by Rajya Sabha, Lok Sabha was dissolved and the bill lapsed. The Subsequent versions were re-introduced in 1971, 1977, 1985, 1989, 1996, 1998, 2001, 2005 and in 2008,but none of them passed.CONCLUSION: bill was tarnishing in the drawers of parliament for mare than 4 decades and MP's are saying that WE DON't GAVE THEM TIME TO MAKE A PERFECT LOKPAL BILL}

• Constitution Changer-  Corruption in our day to day life is putting our tax into pockets of government and our BRIBE in that of BABUS or officers, all weather lokpal supporter or in opposition to it claim this reality! but some of them do not claim that corruption is not only a threat to out TAX but also to OUR SUPREME LAW i.e CONSTITUTION, and this corruption is corroding CONSTITUTION form its very beginning.CONCLUSION:So if corruption and bribe can spit on constitution's spirit then why a Constitution Changer anti corruption bill cannot be implemented to SAVE CONSTITION FORM MUCH NASTY SPUTUM OF CORRUPTION .However alternative can also be don if we stop giving bribe to save our Constitution and fundamental rights from corruption's rusting effect 

• Media's ROLE- Politicians are blaming that it was only media's coverage that popularized this ANDOLAN. Well they are wrong and their tone is of a dictator who controls media. They are wrong because it was not news that powered andolan but it was people's interest flood in society and on social networking sites that forced media to give the required coverage.CONCLUSION: Media of a democracy is free to show what it wants, moreover it shows those things about which people are crazy means media may not have given coverage to the andolan if citizens might not have reacted in that supportive or debative manner.

SUGGESTIONS : Open DEBATE ( in support and against bill)

Lokpal debate in Lok Sabha on Saturday, but no voting

As major political parties sparred on how Lokpal  should be debated in Parliament, Parliament failed to meet the Anna's key demand for a discussion on JanLokpal Bill on FRIDAY  (august 26 2011). This    
failure of discussion on LOKPAL happened due to political war between the Congress and BJP on procedural issues.
Earlier in the day, opposition members gave notices for a discussion on the Lokpal issue under a Rule(Rule 184) that entails voting while Congress members wanted it under a Rule(Rule 193) that does not provide for voting. 
Opposition BJP foiled the ruling side's attempt to get it discussed without voting that made the government to change its strategy to go for a debate in a different form. So the matter is expected to come up on Saturday in a different form. 


So Anna refused to end his 11-day hunger strike demanding in a letter to Prime Minister Manmohan Singh that Parliament pass a resolution, accepting three of his key demands -- setting up Lokayuktas in States, covering entire bureaucracy and citizens charter. 


Edited From: http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Lokpal-debate-in-Lok-Sabha-on-Saturday-but-no-voting/articleshow/9748628.cms

Lok Sabha to discuss Jan Lokpal tomorrow (26/8/11 )

Government have decided to have a discussion in the Lok Sabha on friday on the Jan Lokpal Bill.
As per sources

1. discussion will take place on the Bill in the shape of a “document” and its salient features after which the records of the debate are expected to be sent to the Parliamentary Standing Committee examining the Lokpal Bill.
2. It was, however, not clear immediately whether the debate would be held under Rule 193 or Rule 184, which entails voting.
3. The wording of such a motion could ask for a discussion on the Jan Lokpal and other Bills like the one prepared by Ms. Roy along with the government version of the Bill, and the paper presented by Jaiprakash Narayan so that these be sent to the Standing Committee for its consideration for making a strong Lokpal Bill, sources said.
4. During the discussion, members will be free to speak on Aruna Roy’s version of Lokpal Bill along with the Jan Lokpal and government's Lokpal draft etc. In view of the discussion, Parliament will have a sitting on Saturday, the sources said.

Parliamentary Affairs Minister Pawan Kumar Bansal also held a meeting with Mr. Mukherjee on the issue of discussions.

The meeting took place soon after Mr. Hazare reacted to Parliament’s appeal to end his fast and demanded that it discuss from Friday three key issues on Jan Lokpal and create an agreement first.

Sources: 

http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/article2396849.

http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/industry-and-economy/economy/article2376704.ece